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Apology to Bart Ehrman - revised

20/4/2018

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[This apology has been revised in the light of the further observations made by Deane (see comments section). All this is a salutary reminder of the unreliability of memory and the tendency of (at least) some human beings to conflate two sources together.]

In my most recent blog post, published last week, I made an error for which I must now apologise. I stated that, when Ehrman introduced Mark Goodacre’s criticism of the Matthew Conflator Hypothesis, he said that he found it: ‘completely compelling’. This was inaccurate. What Ehrman actually said was, on one occasion: 'I find Goodacre's argument completely convincing', and, on another: ‘I consider it compelling’. Absolutely accurate quotation is essential to fair and effective debate. I have revised the blog post in question - again!
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Deane
20/4/2018 09:44:18 pm

Hi Alan. Bart Ehrman indeed described Mark Goodacre's response as merely "compelling" when he reproduced Goodacre's response on his blog ("Did Matthew Copy Luke? Mark Goodacre’s Rebuttal" https://ehrmanblog.org/did-matthew-copy-luke-mark-goodacres-rebuttal/).

However, what you may have recalled was Ehrman's description of Goodacre's response which he had made the previous day ("A $1000 Challenge to Me: Did the Author of Matthew Use Luke?" https://ehrmanblog.org/a-1000-challenge-to-me-did-the-author-of-matthew-use-luke/). In this earlier post, Ehrman stated "I find Goodacre’s argument completely convincing". And, of course, "completely convincing" has almost exactly the same meaning as "completely compelling". So your misquotation was very minor, and I think did not require any apology.

In fact, you might even consider restoring the wording of your original post, with the very minor alteration of "completely compelling" to "completely convincing".

I note that Ehrman's earlier post, in which he used the words "completely convincing", also described that *you* claimed that your Matthew Conflator Hypothesis was "a completely compelling case". I don't know that you have described it this way. Perhaps then, this is more significant misrepresentation?

Best wishes,
Deane

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Alan Garrow
21/4/2018 02:09:32 pm

Hi Deane. Thanks for pointing out my incompetence at dealing with my incompetence. I've attempted to reconfigure the apology and article to make them fully accurate.

You are also right that I have never described my thesis with the confidence that Ehrman implies. Ehrman's mistake is, however, understandable given that Evan Powell uses this type of language in their original exchange.

Thanks again for your help, it is much appreciated.

Alan

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Adam Crowl link
2/5/2018 12:28:45 pm

The vagaries of memory... my main disagreement with "oral tradition" as a source of the Gospels (or any other dogma) is this all-too-human fact. JC was surrounded by scribes - his words would've been recorded as best as his hearers could record them. Speed-writing or 'short-hand' was a thing even in those days, thus written records of his words could have survived right from that time. That they were reworked and reordered no one can fairly deny, but word-for-word records could have come to us via his listeners. That the Gospellers chose to copy each other, yet included their own material, their own spin, makes the Synoptic Question so enthralling. It's like a detective story - why did Mark, Matthew and Luke produce material with so much in common and yet, via such distinct editorial choices, set themselves apart from each other?

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Adam Crowl link
13/5/2018 10:07:51 pm

Your humility is that of a true Scholar, Alan. Well handled. We all make mistakes. But being able to accept them with good grace is the mark of a true seeker after Truth.

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    Alan Garrow is Vicar of St Peter's Harrogate and a member of SCIBS at the University of Sheffield. 

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